Lines Made of Blood

While I may not respond to comments in the manner I used to (I try to be hands off these days unless clarification is asked), I do read each and every one of them.  In fact, I encourage comments as a supplement to the topics that I write about; I want to see different perspectives just as much as I imagine my readers do.  All of that said, one comment in particular really struck me as odd:

Many people wish there was a cure because they happen to love psychopaths and hate the reality that doing so is a waste of time because psychopaths can’t ever reciprocate love and will only manipulate.

I say I find this odd because it is my experience that neurotypicals bring out the pitchforks once they’ve identified a psychopath.  This particular comment may have been in reference to romantic relationships, but I think the alleged point can be expanded to general interpersonal interactions.  The neurotypical claim it would seem that psychopaths are certainly worthy of love and respect, so long as they keep their psychopathy in check.  This is not dissimilar from what homosexuals face from the religious community or religions ask of one another:  “abandon the traits that make you you, and we’ll abandon the witch hunt.”  This is forced conformity at its finest.

Where is the line drawn?  Are these neurotypicals asking that psychopaths abandon their antisocial ways and the rest is AOK?  Or, are they asking that we magically become experts in empathy and completely assimilate into the flock?  I do not believe that the former is what neurotypicals are actually asking, because there would still be a differentiator that implies that we are different from them and thus less worthy of human status.  We see this in other aspects of life, most notably with the crusade against the homosexual, by individuals wishing that homosexuals would convert to a heterosexual state even though such conversion would be very unnatural and quite detrimental to the individual.  We also see this with the feverous push to enact complete gun control.  Gun owners have given concessions throughout the past few decades that greatly inconvenience responsible firearm ownership, but the left keeps asking for more.  The line always moves toward the extreme of eradication by those with power.

This is unsurprising.  It is human nature to eradicate the “them” from us versus them dynamics.  A middle ground does not remove the “problem” from those with power.  Thus, we turn to exercise our power with totality.  Returning to the plight that successful psychopaths face, we find that no matter how prosocial the psychopath may become (or emulate), more is wanted by the neurotypical.  They do not want reformation, they want eradication of the condition.  We are insulted by those interested in the psychopath condition that cry crocodile tears when realizing that the condition is neurological in nature and thus more closely resembles fate than choice.  We are destroyed by judges and juries that see us as beasts to be slain, or at least quarantined, than rehabilitated.  The desire to “love” the psychopath is as hollow as the creed of “loving the sinner, hating the sin.”  It is incompatible with the basic human desire to decimate those that are different.

Spare us such false love.  We see through the desires of those around us.  I believe that these cries by neurotypicals for a cure actually hinder their own cause.  What motivation or temptation is their for pursuing prosocial behavior when it is clearly apparent that such is not enough?  Why would the psychopath trade in their evolutionary niche for the larger mass when the powers that be still seek a cure (eradication).  The line always moves toward the extreme by those with power.  The only way to win is to not concede in the first place.  Such a line is made with the blood of “enemies” and is always redrawn again and again, further and further from the starting point.

 

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Comments

  1. FNP says

    The neurotypicals that want us cured should be asked if they’d like to be cured of their empathetic weaknesses. It’s really the same argument for curing psychopaths (because I have no desire to be cured or fixed, and I’d imagine that no other psychopaths think that way).

  2. mel says

    No, we bring out the pitchforks only when we have been conned, manipulated, betrayed etc. and not before.

    FNP, if psychopaths don’t want to be cured, then what is all this fuss about? Are we normals, just supposed to be happy about the way you manipulate us, for your amusement and to feel superior? It seems psychopaths don’t like being so transparent. You don’t like it when we can figure you out and then tell you we don’t like you. Psychopaths need constant admiration and attention and cannot handle anything short of glorious praise. And, since your behavior is not even close to being praiseworthy, you sulk. Boohoo.

    If you want acceptance, act better. It’s just that simple. Bad behavior, from a psychopath, normal, monkey, dog, isn’t easily tolerated by anyone. It’s uncomfortable to be around.

    And, comparing psychopaths to homosexuals is a very ridiculous and weak argument. There is no comparison! Gay people are really nice and don’t en mass try to hurt and manipulate everyone they come into contact with. You can only compare a psychopath to a psychopath.

    • FNP says

      So you’re totally fine with assuming that all gay people are nice, but that all psychopaths are evil? Why not just assume that all Jews steal, all black people are dirty, etc.?

      I can disprove your “Gay people are really nice” argument with 1 counter-example: Jeffrey Dahmer. He was gay. He also killed gay men and boys. Putin’s probably gay too (he tries really hard to make everyone think he’s not), and he’s a massive dickweed.

      Psychopaths don’t want to be cured because there’s nothing wrong with us. The moment you stop generalizing an entire group because you watched Sherlock or something similar, we might take you somewhat more seriously than we do.

      How on Earth can you possibly know that my behavior isn’t even close to being praiseworthy? If I’ve ever met you in the real world, I would’ve likely ignored everything coming out of your mouth because you’re a bigoted prick. That doesn’t mean that my behavior is evil or anything like that. But hey, guess you can’t judge a psychopath by the stereotype unless you’re someone who wants to “cure” us. I’ll be thinking about your desire to cure me while I feed the homeless tomorrow.

  3. mel says

    Jeffrey Dahmer was first and formost a sadistic psychopath! Yes, he was gay, but that’s not what made him a killer. He did not feel a need to change. He liked killing. He felt entitled to take a life as per his whim. Putin, also a psychopath.

    “Psychopaths don’t want to be cured because there’s nothing wrong with us.” As long as you believe you can justify your tendencies as a psychopath, then you will continue to get the reaction you get from people. Normal people do not generalize psychopaths due to some obscure and nonsensical rational. Psychopaths are disliked because they are fully aware of their behavior, make conscious choices and behave badly anyway. Psychopath like to manipulate. Psychopaths could tell the truth, but elect not to because duping is so much fun.

    In a previous post you said that you like to “fuck” with people because it’s fun and if a person is manipulated well it’s their fault. Dahmer also said that about his victims.

    I have no doubt your behavior is praiseworthy. That’s part of the con. You butter people up, so they will like you, so you can get you way. There is a huge distinction with acting with integrity and then being praised and respected because of your authenticity. Psychopaths fake everything. That would be ok if people weren’t the collateral damage that happens in your manipulation schemes.

    I am not generalizing a thing. I have studied Psychopaths and in each and every case devaluation and manipulation of others is employed for self-serving gain. Sure, there are some normal people ( with other emotional issues who do that), but not as consistently, ruthlessly and consciously as a psychopath.

  4. Sam says

    I realize that this comment is remarkably belated compared to the others presented under this article; however, I only just discovered this blog and article and I’m sure I won’t be the last to encounter it.

    I have experienced the phenomenon expressed in the quote a few times, with astoundingly little variation. In each occurrence except one, my possession at the time was a mentally healthy and stable male with age as a negligible factor, since each was between .5 and 1.5 years older than myself, and my age only varied from sixteen to twenty. (I am twenty at the time of writing this, so further trials with an older and more socially deemed “dependable and reasonable” demographic was impractical and unappealing.) The odd man out had social anxiety and general distrust of the population as a whole, as well as a minor self-destructive streak. He was also aware of those traits and intelligent enough to monitor them while still providing some amusing interactions. To each of them I extended charm, indulgence, and protection, and they expressed deisre to share with me their deepest fears and secrets. Since that, generally speaking, is the point at which a human places the most trust in another, I decided to reveal my psychopathy to them then, wording it carefully in a way they should be able to process without immediately reverting to social stigma. At first, they all expressed an unfazed disbelief not unlike if I had told them I was a mermaid or some other entity for which they had no personal frame of reference. Soon, though, a panic would set in that they had been deceived the entire time. Instead of registering that panic logically, though, they would turn with confliction to the devotion they had held so recently, and rely on it as the “known” instead of the variable I had proposed. Thus, the bargaining began. “How do you know? Can I see the diagnosis? Wouldn’t you be in jail if you were a psychopath? Can you go on medication to help it? Is there any way you can be wrong and actually love me? Can you change?” I could go on but essentially their “solution” was invariably “Stay exactly as you are except for that part that makes you who you are as a person. Continue your actions, but change yourself to fit the person I think you should be.” I assumed there would be some variation in response over repeated trials, but no such luck. What a shame, too; it’s such an odd conclusion to reach. Acceptance or straightforward antagonism would have been more entertaining.

    Anyway, perhaps someone reads this comment and has further insight into the phenomenon. If so, please post something further; the current available information is sparse, which often leads to statistical inaccuracies and misinterpretation of data.

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